Clarify Tor's weaknesses with respect to observability
We do not claim that the usage of Tor is undetectable by your ISP, which is good, however we should explicitly state that the fact that you’re using Tor is detectable by your ISP. I believe this is a...
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I agree with both suggestions (for what it’s worth lol) Read full topic
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We don’t really publish a stance on this subject either way at the moment, but I’m thinking we should specifically and actively recommend the usage of a VPN when connecting to Tor. To be perfectly...
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Tor Project agrees with this assessment: On one hand, VPNs are more popular than Tor, so you won’t stand out as much, on the other hand, in some countries replacing an encrypted Tor connection with an...
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I feel better about this updated guidance already, this has been on my to-do list for a little while now. github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org Recommend a VPN+Tor configuration...
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I like this update. Would the approach be the same on mobile, i.e. first you connect to your VPN and then you use Tor Browser? I’m assuming you cannot use Orbot if you already use a VPN. Just a...
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I’ll also clarify the introduction to state that: If you live in a free country, are accessing mundane content via Tor, aren’t worried about your ISP or local network administrators having the...
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In response to a Matrix comment: vpn traffic is impossible to hide, whereas you can reasonably try to hide tor traffic using snowflake bridges proxies The unfortunate reality is that Tor traffic is...
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Oh no I forgot I wanted to make these changes a whole year ago, and then this topic slipped off the radar. Merging the newer discussion into this thread. Read full topic
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Jonah Aragon: To be perfectly clear, we would recommend only: You → VPN → Tor → Internet We would strongly recommend against: You → Tor → VPN → Internet Using Tor Browser and having a VPN client on...
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Could the upcoming webtunnel PTs mitigate this? Read full topic
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Stop Using Tor With VPNs Just to create further discussion since he argues the opposite Read full topic
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Edit 11/29: I ended up publishing a video response to Mental Outlaw basically covering the stuff in this post. You SHOULD connect to Tor via a VPN, actually | 2023 Tor Overview Thanks for sharing!...
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Jonah Aragon: This is potentially valid advice and something I will consider adding to the article I’m drafting....
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Clarify Tor's weaknesses with respect to observability
clockwork: Could the upcoming webtunnel PTs mitigate this? This is a good question, I have seen no research on this subject. They might, because as far as I’ve seen the easiest way to detect meek...
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Jonah Aragon: Again however, this hinges on a—frankly absurd—idea that they can tell that you’re connecting to Tor via that VPN because they’ve broken the encrypted tunnel and can read your traffic....
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Nostradamus: Anecdotally, I know a case of someone that was fired at a previous job simply for having the Tor installed on his work machine. Well, I know of a relative who got reprimend by the head of...
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Reset0609: …and preferably do not use them as personal devices (most people at least here in Portugal seem to do so!) That is what I say to everyone and nobody listens Read full topic
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And what do you think about this possibility? Based on the section immediately above, it follows that adding arbitrary tunnel-links might lead to the same operator/network being used twice in your...
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